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Post  Wicked Singe on Sat Feb 02 2013, 07:50

Very Happy Please remember that any of our members can come up with HLC, tuning events, photo competitions, racing events and mini series. If you have an idea test it out and put it in a thread. Myself, Lou, Baz and Si are always about to help if any is needed.


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Post  Greenfly750 on Sat Feb 02 2013, 11:00

I've had one in mind for a week or so now. Been doing a few tests, but still have some more to do. The only thing I can see being a problem is that it'll most likely be a B class event, which isn't to everyones liking, plus Si's just hosted a B class event so maybe it's a bit to repetitive. It'd be a hot lap as opposed to a tuning challenge.
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Post  ochilbaz on Sat Feb 02 2013, 11:05

b class my ar*e r2 is the one

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Post  Greenfly750 on Sat Feb 02 2013, 11:08

Well get the cogs whirring in that head of yours, Baz, and create a challenge. I can save my idea for a later date.
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Post  ochilbaz on Sat Feb 02 2013, 11:18

i dont mind dan honestly i`m just casting the rod out with some bait on it and i`ve hooked already lol.

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Post  Wicked Singe on Sun Apr 07 2013, 17:39

Just a quick bump for this any member of PNUK can come with a hot lap challenge, tuning challenge, paint challenge or race series. And don't worry if you have no CR to give away I can always fund the prize.
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Post  Greenfly750 on Mon Apr 15 2013, 18:34

Okay. So I've had an idea, but not sure how popular it will be, nor the exact format.

It revolves around the idea of classic cars, that went out of manufactory many years ago but have since made a comeback.

The Generation Cup

Car Class: C or possibly B
The Cars: Mini Cooper '03 starting PI, D315. Fiat 500 Abarth '10 starting PI, D312. Renault Twingo '09 starting PI, D284. Volkswagen Beetle '04 starting PI, E240.
The Format: I think I'd like to have it as a short series, but I am aware there are a lot of series' currently on going, so I'm not sure whether to make it a HLC. It open to suggestion though.
Rules & Restrictions: Obviously, the cars' starting PI's are all quite different so it'll take a lot of testing to get it to work effectively. My initial thought would be to have only 4, and each marque would have the same build, only tuning would be allowed. (so all Minis would have the same parts, all Abarths, all Twingos and all Beetles)

To be honest, I'm not 100% sure on how it'd work, so I'm just posting it to see it's popularity, since I know the lower classes aren't that popular with some members. If it proves popular, then I'll get to work and do the testing. And as I said, if anyone has any suggestions, then shout 'em out.
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Post  Wicked Singe on Fri Apr 19 2013, 19:51



First bit of testing from me done.

Tried to upgrade all cars with similar upgrades sport tyres no aero ect.

5 laps done in each car fastest times shown.
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Post  Greenfly750 on Fri Apr 19 2013, 22:51

Thanks for this Gaz. Smile

Hmmmm. Interesting times and results. The top 4 or 5 are all really close. I've been getting similar times in the Twingo and 500. If you add in the Mini (14.9 at Hock. 07.9 at Silverstone) and Beetle (14.6 at Hock. and 08.5 at Silverstone) they tend to finish in the lower half, so, regrettably it could be worth binning them. I really wanted it to work, but ahh-well.

With regards to the builds, what have you been doing gearbox wise? I know it adds a lot of PI, but I've been putting in the race gearbox. That way, personally speaking any acceleration gains one has over another can be minimized by changing gear ratios. Also, it does make them feel quicker by the fact you're constantly banging up and down the 'box.

Second theory on the builds, regards tyre width. I've been giving the heavier ones, (Beetle and Mini) wider tyres and the lighter cars narrower tyres, as a way to try and balance 'em out. Not sure if you've noticed/tried it out. I was also thinking this could be a good way of doing the driver groups.

What do you reckon to having some of the cars slightly different PI to get them closer? Maybe only 3-5 either way.

That's all I've got for now. I'll keep going with the builds.

EDIT: Oh. On a technical note, I can see this table, but still can't see the leaderboard tables.
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Post  Wicked Singe on Sat Apr 20 2013, 08:36

I used standard gearbox and used full tyre width on all cars wanted them to use same upgrades for the purpose of testing. Maybe a slight tweak to each build would move them all closer each other and I don't mind running the cars at different PI if it evens them all out.
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Post  ochilbaz on Sat Apr 20 2013, 12:45

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Post  Greenfly750 on Sat Apr 20 2013, 14:51

Had another play around with the builds on these this morning. Managed to get the times a lot more similar/close. I'm convinced I can make the Beetle and the Mini competitive, but just depends how consistent they will be.

Lowest PI I've got now is 424 on the Twingo, and the highest is 428 on the Mini. thought I'd give the DS3 a try too, and I quite like it, which could throw a spanner in the works. Razz
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Post  Wicked Singe on Sat Apr 20 2013, 14:55

I really liked the DS3 too Dan, chuck a few in the garage and then when we are next online and have a few peeps on we can race them in a lobby and see what times we get from other members.
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Post  Greenfly750 on Sat Apr 20 2013, 15:07

Will do Gaz.
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Post  Wicked Singe on Sat Apr 20 2013, 15:15

TY Dan will rename this topic as C Class Discussion so we can keep everything in one place.


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Post  ochilbaz on Sat Apr 20 2013, 15:18

Only monkeys race c class

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Post  Greenfly750 on Sat Apr 20 2013, 15:21

Ha. Oogeemeflop. Love it.

ochilbaz wrote:Only monkeys race c class

It's okay Baz. You can pick one of the B class cars then.
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Post  goodwin85 on Sat Apr 20 2013, 22:01

aww no kia's /cry
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Post  Greenfly750 on Sat Apr 20 2013, 22:25

goodwin85 wrote:aww no kia's /cry

Why would there be Kia's? They're history stretches as far as a 7 year warranty. Laughing Smile
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Post  goodwin85 on Sun Apr 21 2013, 12:07

I just like how they drive but defo fancy either the punto or pug
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Post  Greenfly750 on Sun Apr 21 2013, 12:35

goodwin85 wrote:I just like how they drive but defo fancy either the punto or pug

Fair enough. The initial idea was to use cars that have a history, like the Mini, Beetle, Twingo and Fiat 500. Gaz was just testing the potential of other cars to see if the series could be opened up a bit.

If you like Kia's that much you could always come up with a series, tuning, or hot lap challenge. Maybe Korean cars. Kia vs. Hyundai?
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Post  ochilbaz on Sun Apr 21 2013, 12:47

or a merc c class versus audi a4 dtm challenge

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Post  Greenfly750 on Thu Apr 25 2013, 17:54

After a lot of preliminary testing from myself and Gaz (thankyou kindly), as well as a good helping hand from others, I think we've reached the initial builds. So you can build your versions, and tweak the brake balance, diff. settings etc. to suit your preferences.
Any parts that aren't listed, remain standard.

Representing the colours of France:

Renault Twingo C/424
Engine & Power.

Air Filter – Street
Fuel System – Sport
Ignition – Sport
Flywheel – Sport

Platform & Handling
Brakes – Race
Springs & Dampers – Race
Anti-Roll Bars – Race Front and Rear
Roll Cage – Race
Weight Reduction – Sport

Drivetrain
Clutch – Street
Transmission – Race
Driveline – Sport
Diff. – Race

Tyres & Rims
Compound – Sport
Tyre Width – 215 front and rear
Rims – Fikse FM/10

Final stats: PI 424, power 153bhp, torque 138lb-ft, weight 2,164lbs.



Citroen DS3 C/425
Engine & Power

Air Filter – Sport
Ignition – Sport
Exhaust – Sport
Flywheel – Sport

Platform & Handling
Brakes – Race
Springs & Dampers – Race
Anti-Roll Bars – Race Front and Rear
Roll Cage – Race
Weight Reduction – Sport

Drivetrain
Clutch – Street
Transmission – Race
Driveline – Street
Diff. – Race

Tyres & Rims
Compound – Sport
Tyre Width – 215 front and rear
Rims – Fikse Profil 5

Final stats: PI 425, power 181bhp, torque 207lb-ft, weight 2,387lbs



From Italy:

Fiat Abarth 500 B/426
Engine & Power

Air Filter – Sport
Fuel System – Sport
Ignition – Sport
Exhaust – Sport

Platform & Handling
Brakes – Race
Springs & Dampers – Race
Anti-Roll Bars – Race front and rear
Roll cage – Race

Drivetrain
Transmission – Race
Diff. – Race

Tyres & Rims
Compound – Sport
Tyre Width – 225 front and rear
Rims – Fikse FM/10

Final stats: PI 426, power 195bhp, torque 207lb-ft, weight 2,029lbs


And finally Germany, with a hint of Britain.

VW Beetle B/427
Engine & Power

Air Filter – Sport
Fuel System – Street
Ignition – Sport
Exhaust – Sport

Platform & Handling
Brakes – Race
Springs & Dampers – Race
Anti-Roll Bars – Race front and rear
Roll cage – Race
Weight Reduction – Race

Drivetrain
Transmission – Race
Diff. – Race

Tyres & Rims
Compound – Sport
Tyre Width – 255 front and rear
Rims – Fikse Profil 5S

Final Stats: PI 427, power 213, torque 205, weight 2,554lbs



Mini Cooper S B/428
Engine & Power

Exhaust – Street

Platform & Handling
Brakes – Race
Springs & Dampers – Race
Anti-Roll Bars – Race front and rear
Roll cage – Race
Weight Reduction – Race

Drivetrain
Transmission – Race
Diff. – Race

Tyres & Rims
Compound – Sport
Tyre Width – 215 front and rear
Rims – Fikse Profil 5S

Final stats: PI 428, power 169bhp, torque 160lb-ft, weight 2,279lbs

I suppose the next stage would be to get as many of you as we can in a test lobby so we can determine driver groupings.
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Post  ochilbaz on Thu Apr 25 2013, 19:12

Can we not have race tyres? If all cars had race tyres then they will remain equal

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Post  Si_ on Thu Apr 25 2013, 20:12


they`re all equal with sports though baz, unless i`m missing something Suspect

will try get some times for these over the weekend.
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